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It's amazing how quickly a place can come to feel like home.

[ profile] morganlf and I returned back to Seattle yesterday, after four+ days back in SoCal. Admittedly, most of those were in Bakersfield, but we did get to spend an evening in LA and see a few folks who managed to drag themselves to our hotel bar.... (Again--thanks! It was so awesome to see all of you!) To those we didn't manage to see, hopefully next time?

It is so good to get back though--back to our little basement apartment (which we will be out of VERY SOON, if everything goes according to schedule), and back to Seattle. Even the gloom seemed welcoming. :) I go a bit stir crazy without things to do, so work feels almost like a welcome respite after too much vacation. I apparently need to get some of my many discussed side projects off the ground. I think having a house with actual space for an office and a workshop will help that along nicely.... :) Not to mention, there will be many house projects to occupy my time for the foreseeable future....

Anyway, there's little actual point to this post, other than to say, yay for being home.

(As an aside--anyone on my flist know anything about flooring? The house we're moving into has 60s resilient tile (VCT, I assume) everywhere. I'm hoping we can either pull it up (if there's no asbestos), or put new vinyl tile or hardwood over it. I'm nervous about this whole process though, and would love advice.

Date: 2008-12-02 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
But I thought we were installing this?

Date: 2008-12-02 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Maybe you could ask your home inspector?

My wood was pre-existing, so I only have knowledge of refinishing floors. And I've researched pulling up the bathroom flooring (apparently it's no big deal and I'll need a new piece of plywood underneath). Sorry I can't be of more help.

Looking forward to seeing photos of your new place!

Date: 2008-12-02 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Our 60s home had institutional vinyl tile on the floors, under the 80s era carpet. The tile was masticked to 1/4" plywood underlayment which was nailed to the 3/4" subfloor. I ended up taking the tiles off by pulling up the 1/4" ply underlayment because I also wanted to stiffen the floor (installing new underlayment) prior to installing hardwood flooring. I don't know if you are going this far, but if you happen to have a similar structure, it might be a big time saver. I've always seen vinyl tile secured with a tar based mastic that is not condusive to readily creating a clean substrate for new floors.

If the existing tile is stable, overlaying with new vinyl is an easy answer (sheet vinyl, laminate type floors, or new tile). If it is stable and asbestos-free, overlaying with hardwood is possible. If it is not asbestos free, nailing or stapling the hardwood through the tile may liberate asbestos, not sure.

Have fun!

Date: 2008-12-02 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Thanks for your comment--very useful.

We found the original plans for the house, which suggest there is oak hardwood underneath all of the tile--unfortunately my guess is the tar mastic will make it almost unusable without a ton of work.

I guess I really have to wait for the asbestos inspection to make any kind of decision--although, I had heard you shouldn't overlay vinyl on vinyl. Do you know anything about that?

Date: 2008-12-02 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
1) vinyl on vinyl.

Haven't heard one way or another. My comments were just off the cuff based on general experience. Generally, if the VAT is soundly adhered, and if you can find a mastic that will successfully adhere the new vinyl to the old, then it should be doable. Given the smoothness of the VAT surface, these may be insurmountable IFs.

2) Tar mastic over hardwood floors.

O', the horror! the horror! I think that would be a show stopper. A solvent would induce an odor you would never liberate from the house (I presume?), and the mastic would gum up any means of abrasive removal I can think of. If you value your time at anything, the least costly route would like be to remove the hardwoods and start over. Ex situ, they may have salvage value to a home deconstructor who could clean and recycle them.

3) Aside from the principal of it, installing VAT over hardwood seems like a bad idea (not that bad ideas stop such things from happening...). Hardwood isn't especially stable, and I would think the VAT would want to pop up. Are your tiles stable? Do you see irregularities (ala wood planks) if you shine a light at a very low angle over the floor, or kneel down and look along the plane of the floor? I would think you would be able to visually detect some sign of hardwood beneath the VAT floor that way.

Date: 2008-12-02 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Sorry we missed you guys on Saturday night--next time definitely!

Date: 2008-12-03 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I know nothing about flooring, but my husband--home renovator extraordinaire, and faithful watcher of "This Old House"--probably knows quite a bit. If you want, you can e-mail me and I'll give you his e-mail address.


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